Why do people hate anime?

[Adam]

Because the only good shows come from America? O_o

[DannyLilithborne]

There are a lot of different reasons, but these are the main ones that keep coming up:

1. Flagrant unrealism. Weird thing to complain about in a cartoon, but people seem to have an ocean's worth of blood in their body, as well as sharp insight that normally eludes most people fighting battles in real life. People get bored of clashes of titans, hard as it is to believe.

2. The character design in most anime is uninspired at best. You can especially see this in stuff like Gundam SEED where characters only seem to be differentiated by the color of their hair. People tend to lose interest quickly when they can't tell other people apart.

3. The dialogue in anime tends to be stilted by English-speaking standards. Japanese people talk a lot about ideals and about their state of mind (this is unique to anime, and not really present in day-to-day life), as well as focus a great deal on being polite to the point where lack of politeness is a great insult (this *does* exist in real life in Japan). English speakers, Americans in particular, would rather that their characters "get to the point".

4. The Western fanbase of anime is frightening, to say the least. To outsider's eyes, they seem obsessed with a culture that is not theirs, to the absence of more important things such as hygiene and survival. It's not a really valid complaint about anime per se, but it is something that keeps certain people from admitting they like the stuff.

[Adam]

Whenever I ask someone "why" they never give a true answer.

[roma042604]

... um... becuz they just don't like it?

sorry, it's just one of those questions that has a simple answer... but it's one that can't really be accepted...

they just don't like it... simple as that

[StealingJack]

Here's why a lot of people I know hate anime: the fans. explanation given:

A lot of the people who are anime fans like announcing it or proving it a lot. They give each other Japanese nicknames e.g. "Zabe" they try dressing like the characters or acting like the characters. They also tend to be very loud and seemingly immature (but that's just how the extreme anime fan acts). They obsess over J-Rock or J-Pop or anything Japanese. They brag about owning swords. They try to randomly use Japanese words in their every day speech. They talk about how they want to move to Japan a lot or how a certain anime character is hot. They draw it a lot and some even draw their own make-shift anime porn. The younger ones try too hard to be random or cute and most commonly say "___ of doom!" "___ will take over the world!". While the older guys try to be cool or similar to male character. They write fanfics about the anime and the majority are "yaoi". They complain about whatever country they live in and glorify Japan. If a western tv show is loosely similar to a certain anime (no matter how good the western show is) automatically the anime is better. They lie about being part Japanese or living in Japan for a time but having to move to America or where ever they currently live. Some lie about their childhood or experiences in order to seem dramatic and to fit in with some characters. Online they commonly and overly type, XD, ^_^, =^_^=, @_@, o.O and other variations. But besides the "randomness", the drawings and the names...they're just pretty damn weird. And when people see them and realize that, they tend to avoid it and criticise it. The fans wonder why they or anime is trashed talked or looked down upon and what they don't always seem to realize is ....they brought it on themselves.

Yeah don't bitch at me or whatever, that's just what people have said when the subject of anime came up or a certain person came up. Japanese people talk a lot about ideals and about their state of mind (this is unique to anime, and not really present in day-to-day life), as well as focus a great deal on being polite to the point where lack of politeness is a great insult (this *does* exist in real life in Japan). English speakers, Americans in particular, would rather that their characters "get to the point".
Sorry for the long post but I just re-read this particular post... the American culture and the Japanese culture are different. It's not that the Americans are barbarians or whatever it is most people think. Japanese people or anime characters talk about their feelings and ideals openly and are in their standards polite. Most Americans don't talk about their feelings openly, it's not that they'd just like to "get to the point" like they don't understand it, but because most commonly talking about that kind of thing is considered weak (for males) and awkward so they'd prefer to skip it altogether. Talking about their personal goals as well isn't much of a conversation most will have unless it's with someone they trust deeply. And which ever state or town an American lives in or whoever they're around most that's how their politeness is. To one American being polite is a smile while to another it could be a shove.

[WeirdoSpiral]

Honestly, I don't see a reason not to like Anime, but hey, it's me.

[iwatch2muchanime]

Well 90% of the people who say they don't like anime is just because they don't want to know it or don't like toons in general.

[NoName]

I don't really care if people don't like anime, its just when people who dislike it, also dislike ANYONE who likes it, even if its just a little, and they hate it so much that anyone with a postive opinion of it, should be shot because of something they like.

Which is strange, because you could easily say that about anything one of those people like, then they'd be in the same place...

[HeavyDDR]

Most anime haters tend to generalize anime based on the early ones that came to America/other countries; Sailor Moon, Gundam, Dragon Ball... A lot of anime did come from one of those three so when most people see any anime, they directly connect it to one of the three. If it's girly, Sailor Moon. If it's robots, Gundam. If it's action, Dragon Ball.

A lot of stupid anime (Naruto) gets big on a channel, eventually being the main thing on the channel. (Naruto.) When people keep seeing this anime (Naruto.) over and over, they start to hate anime in general. (Naruto.) If you saw the Got Milk commercial constantly, you'd hate it too. Especially if it was dumb. (Naruto.)

It's a cartoon. Not everyone loves cartoons. Everyone wants to "get old quick" so they jump straight from cartoons to real life shows. (High School Musical I'm looking at you.) They hate animation right off the bat.

Lots of rip-off anime shows like Xiaolion Showdown or Teen Titans come out. Again, stupid shows seen constantly, only these are REALLY stupid.

[iwatch2muchanime]

Your examples of rip-off shows are bad dude. Showdown and especially Teen Titans were (Idon't believe I have to say WERE now...) pretty good anime knock offs. You need to go with Totally Spies, Ben 10 (hell in Ben 10 they had Konohamaru and his pose in the show), and W.I.T.C.H., those are terrible.

[Adam]

On another forum I belong to, a huge group of people say that they hate all forms of anime and anime fans, =s One of them watched a random episode of Death Note, and said it was a terrible show that gave kids bad ideas.

[Shadowmayne]

Because people are stupid. Not just those people but all people or People have opinions that can't be explained in a manner with out "NO WTFBBQSAUZ YOU IZ RRROONNG YOU FRUITCUP NO YOUR MOTHER AHSLJDLADAADJKl1337" *cough* *Hammer dances out*

[boman]

are you telling me that none of you make judgements similar to that on other subjects?

[Shadowmayne]

I do all the time and I'm not excused from what I said about People and their stupid opinions.

[boman]

'kay...

[Tenji]

you hitted the spot.
I think people who says that anime sucks say it just because they want to feel more "mature". Curius how the same people tends to watch "the Simpsons" or "South park" just because those cartoons are more socialy accepted. Usualy they take a defensive position when i mention that...
Also, and they usualy don´t admit it, they watch old animes like Captain Tsubasa or Saint Seiya (for the old times) more than one has asked me for the "hades ovas".

Other "anime haters" think on animes and video games as violent things that turn they children into murderers or something... anything to avoid the responsability of being a parent and the fact that they should have watched and educated their childrens and not the let all the work to the tv, the teletubbies and 4kids. (no wonder their childrens become stupids ¬_¬)

There is another faction that does not hate the anime, just hate the people who watch anime. (otakus where previusly discrived in this thread y belive)

As for the diferences betwen anime and cartoons there are many... i like both though. i like the super heroes concept, but i also like the normal people into weird shit concept. (i like this last one better though... but that´s me)

I don´t know... there are lots of reasons for someone to like or not an anime... just as to like or not a movie, a game or anything elase.

[iwatch2muchanime]

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Ben 10 everyone!! Konohamaru and his gang are here for a nice litle cameo.

[DarkLoan]

oh snap, I never noticed that!

Anyway, when asked my only anime-hating friend why he does so, he says "Because all animated shows suck" without any explanation other than "because they do". Odd.

[iwatch2muchanime]

That's not odd, that's a good majority of people's thoughts. Animated shows are for kids and shouldn't be bothered with. There are many different takes on why people hate anime, and hating toons in general is a big one.
Another is a thought that all anime is pornographic, that's a much bigger issue than anyone thought it would be. Sailor Moon and DBZ sparked a massive generation of famous hentai sites that can be found on searches from Google or anywhere. Parents see it and are "My kid has been watching this?!?!" and of course they haven't but parents are truely idiots. From this to video games, parents feel the need to pass their ignorance and stupidity onto the easiest for of media for doing so.......video games and cartoons. (It was comic books, but that passed over and now it's this)

[Rio]

In the UK during the 80's, for a long time Anime and Manga were considered the ultimate in sleazy, and the ultimate breach of censorship. Why? Well companies decided that they'd market anime as 'adult cartoons', so they released movies like Violence Jack and the infamous Legend of the Overfiend. These shocked the general public and not only tainted them against anime, but actually lowered their opinion of Japan all together. It also created the infamous tagline for anime:

"Ban this sick filth!"

It's a relief that now in the 21st century anime has more or less grown out this image. We now have expos, and a growing fanbase for anime, plus a 4-show programming block; Anime Network. But even in this modern age people who are outside anime still are revolted by it's name, and whenever they see anything as low as a sexual innuendo in anime they feel repulsed, so what if it's a cartoon? You see worse in movies! I was scrolling the internet and came across this newspaper headline:

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I've only read a few volumes of psychic academy, but I would guess that the writer is overdoing the flaming a little. Clearly, to gain a good reputation in the West, manga and anime still have a long way to go, as all 4kids attempts at censoring anime have done is make the new generations see anime as 'kids cartoons from Japan'.

[Adam]

A lot of people I know think that anime is just for perverts who like staring at 2 dimensional women parts. I showed a friend that second opening of Death Note, and he said that I was perverted for watching that kind of stuff. -_- People need to understand the different forms of anime and that they can't all be slupped into either "kid" or "hentai".

[Lumineya]

I've known people to just hate anime because it's popular; the anticonformist way of life, which in my opinion, is a joke. People being 100% negative because they think it makes them look cool, or it makes them feel good...

Along with the reasons Danny posted, another reason I frequently hear is "because it sucks".

[HeavyDDR]

Guys, the "I hate" stuff happens to EVERYTHING in the west.

First it was books. Not so much since parents grew up on books.
Then it was movies.
Comics.
Music. (Big one, still going on.)
TV.
Video games.
Internet.

Happens to everything. People feel real unbalanced on subjects and when ever something bad happens, they tip the balance greatly.

[ifrit1780]

I guess people in america think that anime is to unrealistic (but then again, american animations are almost just as unrealistic as anime =/ ) Or they're probably jeolous that anime is more popular than most american animation.

[HeavyDDR]

See, thats the fan-boy/girl thought of the subject. Truth is, America doesn't hate anime any more than cartoons in general. It's just that most anime takes place in JAPAN. You know, where the laws are different and people act different? We don't need TWO Japans. One is annoying enough. Kids learn a lot from television. I already have an autistic kid at my school who acts like Naruto; he believes in chakra and everything. I hate this kid because he thinks he's all that and that he can do anything: LIKE FREAKING NARUTO. This would be the exact same if he grew up on cartoons (not anime) and watched a cartoon about ninjas flying around with all the same courses.

Besides that, Americans like to have their drama set in a more realistic enviorment, with real people. Yeah some cool animation can be thrown in there but America has grown up with the thoughtthat cartoons are childish. Cartoons were made for kids when they came out, of course adults are going to look down at them. And don't say, "LAWL AMERICA IS SO SELF CENTERED" because you're just as self-centered you hyped-up anime fans. They, the "non-anime Americans" look at you like self-centered kids who don't want to leave fantasies behind.

When was the last time you saw a cartoon hit the WORLD, that had a story, had characters, was basically an anime but in a more western animation. When? There weren't. People look down at cartoons here, kids. No one takes cartoons seriously here.

And oh god, TooMuchAnime, that is probably the most ANNOYING thing I have ever seen. Ever. Ben 10 and Naruto. That's like saying Puke and Farts.
Seriously, can someone please tell Cartoon Network to stop sucking Naruto's dick? They have a marathon about Naruto every other freaking week. I've yet to see a Bo-bobo marathon or a One Piece marathon on CN. BUT NOW THEY HAVE IT ON BEN 10 JUST GRAND.

[iwatch2muchanime]

Well that's an attack if I've ever seen one, not on me either just at everything. and it's "2muchanime" okay.

I'm not even going to go after 3/4 of whyat you said, BUT for 75% of their shows Cartoon Network ONLY airs the shows, not makes them, the writers and animators may not have anything to do with CN in general, whicch is the case for Ben10, whoever made that episode likes Naruto.

2nd, CN is marathoning Naruto for F*CKING reason, so shove it in your mouth and your Naruto hating ways, all haters on anything need to be quiet, stay open to anything and everything and think clearly, otherwise all of your thoughts on something that YOU HATE is void for being completely biased and doesn't hold up in any argument you ever want to have..
Every marathon gives them a reason for 2 new episodes, which is because they're trying to get to the highest rated Naruto season ever, that Sasuke Retrieval Arc, where Naruto gets it's one and only gold medal for doing something right. AND so they can get through 5 seasons of Filler without Toonami's ratings dropping too far. ANother thing, Toonami and Adult Swim have complete control over their shows, CN is only the channel it shows on, so they can't do anything about Toonami's marathons. Now the 9 o'clock showing sure, but not Toonami.

Also, there's no One Piece marathon because 4kids dropped the show and are waiting for FUNimation to do whatever and Bobobo sucks in comparison to both of these and wouldn't do well for the ratings anyway.

[HeavyDDR]

OK. Hang on. Replace Cartoon Network with Toonami, though I'm sure Cartoon Network isn't too much different.

All I'm saying is that there are too many Naruto marathons. Thats basically the only reason someone would watch Naruto now. If they want to promote a season, fine, but they don't need to ALWAYS get in the way of everything else they have. I do watch the One Piece dub mainly for laughs (It's more of a parody now.) and Bo-bobo is still a good show nonetheless. They air an episode every freaking day, probably two, I don't know, I don't watch Cartoon Network that much anymore, and every month theres a Naruto marathon. I'd much rather watch a variety of shows then three hours of crap.

And anyone who watches Naruto has seen every god dang episode (Mainly due to replays but also due to fandom.) so I don't think they really need to refresh you on anything.

[iwatch2muchanime]

That's where you're wrong, a large majority of the people who watch Naruto on Cartoon Network have NOT seen it it already. The target audience for this show here is still young teens who probably don't have much authority over a computer to watch them all the time. And once a month isn't that bad, especially for the ratings on the channel.
Ratings come first man, and Naruto has the most because it is the best show on Toonami as of now, One Piece is a MUCH better show, but the dub is just so incredibly bad it's basically a parody as you said, making it crap now. Bobobo is most definately NOT a good show with the dub, SO much dialogue was changed in it, IT is also a parody of what it once was, and it was a comedy that made fun of everything to begin with, which is terrible. Teen Titans is old, and GX I don't need to explain, Storm Hawks is also terrible (looked so good on the trailers too). So in fact Naruto is the best on there, so a marathon of Naruto is a marathon of genius.
And like I said, shut up on the Naruto hating, Naruto is FAR from crap and is better than 90% of what's on CN anyway. I mean the only GOOD CN made cartoon on there is Billy and Mandy, other shows worth mentioning Code Lyoko, which is decent at best and Pokemon which will always be a highly watched show, so Naruto being on during the weekdays is a safe haven for all the shit that's on there now. And Adult Swim is still doing nicely with it's shows, so no need to go into that.

Where the HELL is Zatch Bell??!?! God that show was awesome, I mean sure I can go torrent Goshiken no Gash Bell, but I liked the dub, it was also better than most stuff on Toonami.

[HeavyDDR]

You know, let's just stick to anime haters. We've moved from that to ratings.

This whole topic is based on anime-fanism. I'm sure if there was a topic called "Why do people like anime?" and the first post was, "Cause the only good shows come from Japan? =/ " we'd get completely opposite views. No, I'm not going to make said topic, but it's worth mentioning.

I don't hate anime in general, but I hate most anime that comes out. Same story (A lone samurai must take care of some girl while fighting demons.), same characters (Lone samurai has several scars, likes ramen, and he's stupid to boot.), and bad art. (Samurai has many scars, mainly on his face, long, strange colored hair, and big anime eyes. The girl looks just like every other girl, except her voice.) An anime has to be different for me to like it, which is why I like One Piece. Yeah Luffy is basically like the samurai, but you can at least tell him apart from every other character. Even the female characters.

[iwatch2muchanime]

You COMLETELY changed everything we were talking about. I never called you an Anime Hater, just a Naruto Hater, because we're on the topic of Naruto at the moment.
Anyone who says "The only good anything is from this certain place" is a weak minded or linear minded individual who won't open up to anything else, because every country has SOMETHING good about it coming out of it.
And again, if you're going to complain about something, doit to everything that does it, in this sense, your "Same old Same old" anime routine is the same with EVERY form of ENTERTAINMENT from live action to video games, everything has it. And teh best apart about this is that anime is thought about as toons, when in fact it needs to be thought about as just television for something like this, like almost everything with a story on OUR TV, anime has a counterpart for it...+ more or - less, it all depends.
One Piece is different? No, by no means is it. One Piece's basic story is the same as Outlaw Stars story, if you want to break things down, almost everything has something just like it but stylized different. You based your little thing for One Piece just on the fact that Luffy looks different then other characters and the girls? Of course, a shounen anime almost always does a good job at making their designs look different from generic eye design and generic hair design (as is with Naruto, and Hunter Hunter), but EVERY female character between 15-40 has the same charcter design in One Piece. Put some different clothes on her and different hair, change eye color and Voiala!! Same with anything from Leiji Matsumoto (Harlock Saga, Interstellar 555) all the girls look the same, there's an old man character design that appears in every one, and a character that always looks like Harlock and one for the boy from Queen Emeraldes.......veering off topic...but Matsumoto's designs in general are different fom others.

Anime has a certain style from it that can't be changed much otherwise it would lose it's effect. (Did you know that the first anime chracters were created from Mickey Mouse? Big eyes, small mouth) and that's how it's been (except for shounen series). Which is why you will see a lot of the same looking faces in anime, but you HAVE to see through that for clothing design which differs and weapons or attitudes with the design, otherwise you'll be stuck with bad interperatation for a long time. /end

[HeavyDDR]

I beg to differ. Nami's breasts are much larger than Vivi's.

Just saying. Thats how I tell the difference.

[DannyLilithborne]

I mean sure I can go torrent Goshiken no Gash Bell, but I liked the dub
That's Konjiki no Gash Bell :P

[iwatch2muchanime]

Not from my sleeping point of view, I literally just woke up when typing that and am literally falling asleep now......I think I was watching Genshiken while typing that too.

@ HeavyDDR, no, no they're not. During the entire Arabastre arc and leading up to it, their boobs were the same size, not until later did Nami's boobs become truely oversized with the animation changes, but now we only need to see Vivi in the current episodes to see that still. You're falling back on weak arguments man.

[HeavyDDR]

You're taking a breast comparison argument seriously.

Go back to sleep.

[iwatch2muchanime]

Breast comparison is a serious issue in shows dude.

[HeavyDDR]

Nami's > Vivi's.

In the manga her breasts got no larger.

[iwatch2muchanime]

In the manga, there isn't a large set of animators slated to do different episodes with their own power. It's all drawn by the creator who does it himself. What I said was in the anime, it was the animation changes that made them SEEM oversized, but they're not in reality, but Vivi's and Nami's and Robin's and Nojiko and etc...have all the same size boobs cuz they're all around the same age (Robins oldest) and if they are different, it's VERY slight.

And also, I said the same basic character design from 15-50, obviously someone that's 30 may have bigger boobs than that of 15, (Robin's 28, Nami's 17, slight difference) But basic character design doesn't mean = proportions to the T.

[LoserWithQuarters]

I don't understand why people who don't like/know anime even bother wasting their time to pick on someone who does. If they were really mature, they'd understand that it's just something someone else likes. It's kinda like saying "Bob likes baseball while Mike likes Golf"; "Jen likes hip hop while Amy likes rock" Their lack of maturity is one of the main problems. some/most people refuse to grow up and get over it.

and i heard about the konohamaru cameo in Ben 10 but never believed it till now XD

[Robert35861]

because people who like anime TOO much makes them not like anime

[HeavyDDR]

I've seen people who watch way too much anime.

I hate them.

I honestly do.

There's a limit guys. THERE'S A LIMIT. If your closet has only anime-based clothing, if you memorize every hand symbol in Naruto, if you make exact replicas of the Going-Merry in your free time, YOU'RE WATCHING TOO MUCH.

[iwatch2muchanime]

There's no such thing as too much anything in the entertainment world. TOO MANY GAMES?!?! NO, TOO MUCH ANIME?!?! NO, TOO MANY MOVIES!?!? NO, SO MANY BOOKS!?!? NO.

I've seen more than MANY people out there, but don't any Naruto symbols, don't make models, and a small portion of my clothes are anime based (hmmm lets count, 1 Naruto shirt, 1 DBZ shirt, 1 Yu Yu Hakusho Shirt, 1 One Piece shirt, 1 Inuyasha shirt, 1 Yu-Gi-Oh! dogtag necklace, 1 Anime Junkie shirt, a set of I "Ai" Anime shoe laces, ugh...that's it I guess, NO BLEACH SHIRT?!? Wowzers, or Transformers)

Stop being such a generalizing person.

[Robert35861]

it was these people at my school who like anime so I started talking to them...and not to be mean but they were PRETTY weird
they made me not want to watch inuyasha as much as I did

[HeavyDDR]

Then you don't watch too much anime.

LET ME REPHRASE THAT.

People that truly obsess themselves over anime. Now repeat my last post.

[iwatch2muchanime]

You see it's generalization, obsessing over ANIME isn't the problem, putting themselves in one of the many stories of the anime and memorizing everything in it is. And that's not really a problem, it's just annoying to some.

[Umbre]

My friend doesn't like the way people in anime generally have small noses. |DDD;;;

[droade]

dood, Otaku's are so totally pimp, especially man-Faye, no one cosplays like Man-Faye(Cuz nobody wants to). and what's weird about learning hand symbols? there's only 12, it doesn't take that long. what's weird is when people go into the public dressed like an anime character, I'd have to shoot them, I don't wanna go to walmart looking like Goku.

[DrunkenPrayer]

You see it's generalization, obsessing over ANIME isn't the problem, putting themselves in one of the many stories of the anime and memorizing everything in it is. And that's not really a problem, it's just annoying to some.
Generally speaking it's annoying when someone is obsessed with anything if they won't shut up about it around people who have no interest. I can really understand it as well, I wouldn't want someone droning on about their obsession with cars or football to me so I leave my geek side at the door when I'm talking to most of my mates.
One of my mates and I are really guilty of doing this with MMOs around everyone else in our group, but hey screw 'em they talk about Pro Ev quite a lot and somehow think that's not geeky because it's a football game.

Just a quick note about "otaku" when people in the west use that term I really wonder if they realise the massive gap between what people who are considered otaku in Japan and those that exist in the west. Over here it's seen as almost a badge of pride in the fan community when in Japan it's a very negative term.

[iwatch2muchanime]

Otaku isn't just a slated thing either. It's not a super fan of anime, an OTAKU is a die hard fan of ANYTHING, so a die hard car fanatic is an otaku, so it's not always heald as a badge OR negative.

And you should be able to talk about anything to anyone at any time, hold your geek side at the door? No way. You talk about anything, only when they say something should you stop or hold back a tad.

[DrunkenPrayer]

See I always pictured otaku as more of a negative term to describe the shut ins who are incredibly antisocial in real life and would prefer to play dating sims and visual novels rather than go out and socialise in any way other than online. Mind you that could be strictly in reference to more the anime/manga side of things.

I'm honestly not that deep into Japanese culture other than the fact that some anime and film from the east is much more original and entertaining than 90% of the crap we get over here. I guess modern western fans kind of annoy me at times, due to my own ignorance I still mix up anime and manga at times because I remember when a lot of stuff started getting distibuted over here the company doing it was Manga entertainment (Guyver FTW) so the habit kind of stuck to call it all manga. This actually gets me into trouble a lot, thankfully I just shrug it off because most of the people that I know that point this out are the types that follow trends and will find something else to be pretentious about in a few months.

Damn I'm coming across really bitchy in these posts without meaning to :-(

[klokwerk]

Common public Americans seem to not like foreign things and tend to view them in a negative manner

[HeavyDDR]

Or people have their own opinions.

[iwatch2muchanime]

OR people are just inertly racist and don't know it yet.

[HeavyDDR]

... Nah, I think people have opinions.

[iwatch2muchanime]

And I think people are racist.

OPINIONS!!

[Bartman]

this may be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpYZ4fR2m-s&NR=1 the reason.

[DannyLilithborne]

in America!

[iwatch2muchanime]

Not anymore.... now it's

IN CANADA!!!!!!!

[AcidDude]

People hate anime probably because they see it as a cartoon and not an art form. Plus, anime is more complex and crazy than American cartoons, which frustrates some people who hate differences (racists, Sexists, etc.). That's just my theory......DEATH TO THE ANIMEFLAGGERS!!!!!!!!!!!

[klokwerk]

True, people see it as a cartoon, not an art.

[iwatch2muchanime]

but anime are cartoons

[AcidDude]

oh contrare. anime is animation done by the Japanese and is considered its own style of art just like manga.

[cazzy]

I don’t think people "Hate" anime, it’s just stereotyped to be "lame" and you are Sad if you do watch it. You know, people who watch anime are often classified with the people that watch Star Trek, Stargate SG1, and Starwars repeatedly. As I hate all those series I have just listed and I do watch anime a lot at the moment because the series gap in my programs I do watch, I feel that this stereotype is probably wrong in a lot of cases as it doesn’t apply to me.

*I apologise now for this is turning into a rant*

I enjoy Anime it just annoys me that some people get a tad over obsessed over things. Yes being passionate over something is ok BUT some people take it too far. This is another reason why people stear away from anime

Also it doesn’t help that the American dubs ruin the originals with the poor voice acting. Also 4kids and other crap companies editing the characters and story lines to make it more farfetched and cringing

Also anime subbed is not regually shown on TV so no one could just turn on the TV and get into a series, it all has to be done through word of mouth and as people are afraid to be classified into the category I have previously mentioned, it doesn’t tend to catch on as well as other shows. I for example I don't talk about it to my friends, because I would be labelled as “sad” or in American term a “geek”, which i dont see myself as.

Overall I appreciate anime and I appreciate the Japanese culture, and I originally watched anime because I loved the animation style, as it tends to be more realistic (character development wise more than genre) than western cartoons e.g. Tom and Jerry (not digging at Tom and Jerry, I love it; it’s just the 1st name that came to my head). Yes some anime is pure crap, but same with some shows local to us too, I don’t want to name any encase I offend.

Sorry for the huge rant but I have been in a rat arse mood all day and its help me cool down a bit. I’m sorry I offended anyone with this post; I did read it and edit parts in attempt to not offend.

[iwatch2muchanime]

Haha what a fool, ALL forms of animation, from any country are cartoons my friend, the contraire is that not all cartoons are anime.

Cazzy, you tried hard to make a good point, but most of that was stated already in this thread or has been made apparent.

[cazzy]

yes sorry i didnt read the thread whole before i ranted, i read the 1st post and then the follwing ones after and realised. but oh well, at least i blew off some steam i felt a bit better taking my anger out on the keyboard rather than some innocent victim

[iwatch2muchanime]

That's the way to think!!

[DarkLoan]

When people memorize the handisgns, have their own shadow windmill whatever shuriken, and when they cosplay for Christmas and Easter and the first day of school, that's when they're obssesed. I don't think watching every episode is obsessed. That just means I'm very bored.

A lot of people hate anime because of the awful pauses in fights and such. (Such as in Naruto). It's disguised as 'building dramatic tension' but it's really just lazy animation. Sometimes, they'll have scenes with nothing but a character talking in a close-up of their face, and a cheap little tween from side to side. Sometimes, they're not even talking. The screen just stays the same while a voice is talking. There's less of that in shippuden, though. And animes like Zombie Loan and Haruhi don't have that, just animes like One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach.

Some people hate anime because they don't like the characters, (e.g. Naruto is annoying) and they just think all anime is like that.

[Anzu]

...ok seriously...iwatch2muchanime you need to stop taking things so personally...it seems that in every anime-related thread you're there replying to everyone in dissagreement and trying to defend shows that you like. its basically like spamming, if it was a *defend your favourite anime and cartoons from what haters say thread* then fair enough. but its not, its a *why do people hate anime* thread...so people are bound to mention anime that they think causes a negative stereotyping outlook on all anime.

Anyway I think that people either say they hate anime because they think only losers like it and they don't want to ruin their *coolness*.
They see an anime that they think is childish, boring or repetitive and think all anime series are the same.
or They just cant be botherd to give it a try and render it crap anyway.

[iwatch2muchanime]

Ooh ouch Anzu, that almost really hurt, you see I'm not defending an anime here, I'm just making apparent the crap that people spew and make sure they understand what they actually meant or that it's wrong. A lot of stuff said here isn't based on opinion and they say it like it is and vice-versa, and I've "defended" every show, I defend Naruto in one thread from a Naruto hater lover, and defended One Piece in another, so it's NOTHING like spamming and I've never said I even liked any of these shows, so nobody knows whether I do or not, and I'm about to say something again.

@DarkLoan
Remembering handsigns and cosplaying for Christmas still doesn't really mean they're obseesed, it means they're a fan. And being a fan has many, MANY, ways of being expressed, and this is just a few of them.

[DarkLoan]

Yeah, but in my own opinion, When you start memorizing hand-signs and cosplaying (Not counting Halloween and comic-con and such) that's when you start being a little too obsessed and you should spend your time doing something else with your life.

[iwatch2muchanime]

Wow, there are a few types of lives, 2 are happy lives, and successful lives, very rarely do these things merge with each other. To live a successful life you need to focus on the future and think about the past, and rarely live in the now, to live happy you live in the now and rarely think about the past or future. Notice there are always differences and sometimes these go together, but not very often.

What was the point of that? For the people who go all out on memorizing things from anime and dress up as them for fun, that's them living the life they want to, and anyone should live the life they want to, even if it seems counter-productive.

[shadowsirenv]

I'm going to have to agree with cazzy on the whole "sad American" ordeal. In my school, people aren't anime fans because they think it's all the same thing over and over again (ninja's, mystical powers, etc., etc.), when in reality, there's much more than that. They're close-minded people who only care about what's popular at the moment and won't open their minds to the possibility of actually liking it. Basically, they stereotype anime. Also, they find it very unrealistic (as if Harry Potter's any less. Not that I hate it, I just need to prove a point). Remember that's just in my school.

I tend to like anime more than regular Western animation simply, because they dialgoue is a little more realistic (excluding the 4Kids dubs). I mean, just look at Bratz. A high-schooler wouldn't call another girl a "brat" she would call her a "bitch".

Just my two cents.

[Argonaut]

I don't hate all anime... Fullmetal Alchemist is a pretty creative show, and Miyazaki makes beautiful films. Even Yu-Gi-Oh might've been OK in the Japanese version since they put little to no emphasis on childrens' card games, but I've always thought some shows (one of them was "Strawberry Panic") are just pointless. Maybe it's just that I never liked cartoons much... Maybe not. I of course know that Americanized versions of anime suck (Yu-Gi-Oh, Naruto, etc.)

[iwatch2muchanime]

Why Strawberry Panic? You mean shows that are more about school life or love relationships, or shows about lesbian relationships? Or just shows with no action?

[Yamisgurl2]

Because they're retards? Nah, just kidding. But coming from an anime junkie, like myself, it's pretty unbrlieveable.

I guess it's because some people are quite closed minded. They don't want to experience things outside their own culture. I remember some friends I had a long while back. They weren't allowed to play games like pokemon, or watch anime because, according to their parents, it was "work of the devil".

So, they would come over to my house to watch anime and play the pokemon card game.

Yeah, so it's probably religious crap. Hey, it sounds like that to me! But I'm just an anime junkie!

[skigh]

People probably seen childish ones maybe and then assume that anime is for sissy little kids. Or maybe what they seen probably was something not as great and then assume all anime is like that. Also, it doesn't help that some of the dubbing sucks and the editing. For example, I initially didn't like YGO when I saw the dubbed on TV, but one of my close friends showed me the Japanese version and other series and now I rather like it. So main point? People can be close minded or they just generalize.

Also, anime fans that I know (the REALLY obsessed ones I mean) are rather obnixious. No offense to anyone.

I love anime, but I honestly haven't watched that many. My list is under 20 or so...

[Yamisgurl2]

For sissy little kids? ........ wow....... If they think that, then they seriously haven't seen the original of FMA. Blood... oooo, I'm scared...

[skigh]

yeah... I know. The anime that my sister's into involves lots of blood and swearing. Its good most of the time, but still. xP

[Yamisgurl2]

Im can handle a bit of blood. I mean, I watch ER and Grey's Anatomy. But if a shows grusomely grotesque... *shivers*

[Shoenin]

The most common complaints I see are usually:
1. The fans.
2. The Animation quality
3. The Stories

[Yamisgurl2]

I can name a few animes that have both good animation quality and a well thought out plot.

1. Zoids: CC
2. Cardcaptor Sakura (Yes, the original. The dub sucks)
3. Sailor Moon (Mostly just the plot. It's very imaginative, but the Animation quility is about average)